"Tim (Fractal Footwork)" (fractalfootwork)
08/11/2013 at 11:28 • Filed to: Spyker, SUV, D8, OppositeLock
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"Tim (Fractal Footwork)" (fractalfootwork)
08/11/2013 at 11:28 • Filed to: Spyker, SUV, D8, OppositeLock | 0
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Talk about atrocious. I'd rather have the Bentley SUV at this point...
The Dutch sports car maker is putting new impetus behind the ‘P2P’ project after forging a joint venture with Chinese company Youngman. Spyker contributed the intellectual property rights and technology of the P2P, while Youngman has invested €25 million (£21.8m) to finish the project.
Spyker chief Victor Muller told Autocar, “The engineering has been done, but we need to build the tools and put the car into production.”
Muller estimates there is potential to sell up to 1000 examples of the premium 4x4, predominantly in emerging markets like China and Russia.
“No one has put in the marketplace a mid-engined supersports vehicle with four doors and four-wheel drive,” he added. “The P2P will be very usable, but it will be a beast.”
Spyker will turn its attention to the P2P after it has signed off the B6 Venator, the 375bhp V6-powered, !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! -sized sports car it showed at Geneva this year ahead of a market launch in 2014. The development of the smaller car has been one of the motivating factors behind the design refresh of P2P.
Spyker will outsource the build of the B6. The firm’s current model, the !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! , is built at its Zeewolde HQ, but with the new, less costly model expected to sell in larger numbers, it doesn’t have sufficient capacity there.
Muller wouldn’t be drawn on the identity of the partner, although it has an existing technical tie-up with Lotus Engineering. “We really need to have very high-quality craftsmen that understand how to build a car, so we will probably end up in Germany or in England,” he said.
An open-top !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! Spyder will be unveiled at the Pebble Beach Concours d’Elegance later this mont
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Zukey Badtouch
> Tim (Fractal Footwork)
08/11/2013 at 11:51 |
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El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First!
> Tim (Fractal Footwork)
08/11/2013 at 11:54 |
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Two things:
1 That car sucks.
2 “We really need to have very high-quality craftsmen that understand how to build a car, so we will probably end up in Germany or in England,” That's basically telling Dutch people that they are a bunch of lazy, incompetent junkies who can't build more than a couple of hundred cars, every year.
duurtlang
> El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First!
08/11/2013 at 12:30 |
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It's expertise and experience they're after. They're not looking for relatively poorly educated construction line workers. Lots of people can be trained to do work like that. There's simply more highly qualified personnel in the car manufacturing branch to choose from in Germany and the UK, which is logical giving the history of car manufacturing in those countries.
Obviously I'd prefer them to produce these cars in the Netherlands. I get why they're considering other countries though.
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El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First!
> duurtlang
08/11/2013 at 13:30 |
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Heh, I know, it just seemed like a funny thing to say. On the other hand, it is a bit silly, to have an automaker that probably won't produce more than 2000 cars every year, even with the SUV and the Hunter concept sent to production, have operations in two different countries.
Blondude
> Tim (Fractal Footwork)
08/11/2013 at 13:36 |
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The test mules look awesome though!
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Tim (Fractal Footwork)
> Blondude
08/11/2013 at 13:38 |
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I would possibly go for one of those
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duurtlang
> El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First!
08/11/2013 at 13:41 |
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That's a fair point. Having everything in the same country could make things easier. However, the current Zeewolde plant is located a mere hour drive from the German border and another half an hour from the heavily industrial German Ruhr district. Zeewolde to the outskirts of London can be done in slightly over 5 hours by car through the Calais-Dover tunnel.
The Opponaut formerly known as MattP123
> Tim (Fractal Footwork)
08/11/2013 at 17:31 |
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Not sure you should be inspired by the 1962 Valiant....
Dabamash
> Tim (Fractal Footwork)
09/04/2013 at 12:42 |
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Looks shit.
Lars9877
> Tim (Fractal Footwork)
09/04/2013 at 14:20 |
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“No one has put in the marketplace a mid-engined supersports vehicle with four doors and four-wheel drive,” he added.
Why the heck should I buy a supersports car with 4 seats and 4 doors? Kick the stuff out, make it light. Or you end up with another "just-for-the-money-china/arab-car".
And an ugly one, too.
Protip for free: if it stays that ugly double the price so the sheiks will buy it.